Composers no longer indexed in the library for Qobuz albums

guardajoias

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Hi. At first I though it might be related to the Qobuz re-sync issue, but it now seems to be an independent issue: When I add Qobuz albums to the library, they appear in searches by Album or by Album Artist but they no longer appear (for newly added albums, no sure from what date) if I do a search on the composer. This is systematic. So my searches by composer are giving increasingly irrelevant results as they do not show albums that come from Qobuz although they were added in my library. This is a major breakdown in the functionality of the integrated library. I hope this can be fixed including for those albums that did not get properly indexed... Thanks.
 
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I relayed your comment to the QA team. Apologies in advance in case we have misunderstood, but i will copy their response below directly for fear of miscommunicating something in translation - hopefully this explains:

If an album is added, it won’t appear in the composer list (albums are related to the artist).
for ex:
I added this album
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If I search for this album under the composer (Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart), it won’t appear.
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If a track is added, the user will see the album (tracks are associated with the composer).
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Hi guardajoias, i have checked with the development team and unless we misunderstand, there were never Album results based on searching for a Composer, because the Composer information is only saved on a track level, not an entire album. It could be that in your past experiences that by coincidence the Composer was exactly the same as the Artist (a tag that does get applied on an album level), whether it be a local file or a streaming service. Therefore based on what you describe, this would be expected behaviour.
 
Hi guardajoias, i have checked with the development team and unless we misunderstand, there were never Album results based on searching for a Composer, because the Composer information is only saved on a track level, not an entire album. It could be that in your past experiences that by coincidence the Composer was exactly the same as the Artist (a tag that does get applied on an album level), whether it be a local file or a streaming service. Therefore based on what you describe, this would be expected behaviour.
Sorry, I should have been clearer: I do a search on a composer, then select that composer and Sense shows albums where that composer "Appears on". This is not perfect, but it works. Fortunately there is a way to get albums with music of a given composer: all other music apps do it (see example of Apple Music attached) and Sense would be useless for classical music without it. The problem is that recently added Qobuz albums are not added to this list. you can see in the attached screenshot that there are local and Qobuz albums listed, but those were added some time ago. More recent ones do not show up.... The Steffani Stabat Mater is showing in new music, but not under Steffani as artist/composer although he is listed in the track credits...
 

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I relayed your comment to the QA team. Apologies in advance in case we have misunderstood, but i will copy their response below directly for fear of miscommunicating something in translation - hopefully this explains:

If an album is added, it won’t appear in the composer list (albums are related to the artist).
for ex:
I added this album
image

If I search for this album under the composer (Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart), it won’t appear.
image

If a track is added, the user will see the album (tracks are associated with the composer).
for ex:
image

image
 
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Thank you Stephen for this clarification. I now understand there is an underlying weakness of the Qobuz search engine. This means however that Qobuz albums that are in my unified library are treated differently than local albums. For local albums, fortunately, as long as one track on the album is from the searched composer, the album will show up (including for example the Mozart piano concertos album used above). LMS 9 does the same and actually highlights the tracks of the composer. (iPeng shows the Album also but only the relevant tracks. I prefer the Sense or LMS 9 approach).

Is there a way for Sense to show the Qobuz albums that are in my library when at least a track is of that composer, in the same way that it does for local albums? Otherwise, my searches are only meaningful for local albums and I could have plenty of (Qobuz) albums in the library that I will never see because I browse or search by composer...

This is all the more problematic because on an artist search or browsing, Sense only shows Albums, not tracks... So Qobuz albums that are in my library are totally ignored in searches or browsing on a composer.

I will raise the search issue with Qobuz in parallel... it is true that I noted in the past that in many cases, when I was looking for a composer or a work, I had to search for it on Apple Music to find out the title of the Album and then search for that Album in Sense or Qobuz... I just assumed their search engine was not as good as Apple Music's...


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