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Stephen Healy

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In the spirit of trying to do whatever is possible to reduce power consumption/carbon emissions etc, it would be great to incorporate a power saving feature through scheduled or automated power on/off of Innuos devices if left idle or after a particular configurable time of day.
 
At the previous feedback zone I added the fact I keep forgetting turning off my zenith. Would use an auto power off after X time function.
 
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I agree that this would be a great feature, but as a sort of stand-by mode. It would defenitely be added value if the device could be switched on again from within the Sense app and webbrowser.
 
You mean add more switches that will pollute the unit with noise that Innuos has relentlessly engineered and mastered to prevent? Bad idea!
 
You mean add more switches that will pollute the unit with noise that Innuos has relentlessly engineered and mastered to prevent? Bad idea!
Fortunately, that should not really be necessary; this kind of feature would likely exist just on a software level.
We could explore the option of an Auto-standby when the system is idle after X amount of time.
As for turning the system on via an app, this would essentially require Wake-on-LAN which we have quite a cautious view on. It's very network-dependant in terms of reliably working, and is prone to unexpected behaviour. NAS drives, for example, can trigger the system to wake up etc.
We certainly do recognise the desire for easier on/off which is why there will be an IR remote that can do this for STREAM series,
 
Thank for this info. Unfortunately I don't own a Stream series model but a Zenmini. Will there ever be a likewise solution for other devices?
 
Thank for this info. Unfortunately I don't own a Stream series model but a Zenmini. Will there ever be a likewise solution for other devices?
In terms of a remote control, unfortunately not. There are no IR receivers or Bluetooth on devices like the Mk3, so all commands must come from the network. There have been third-party remotes in the past that would actually support this, but suspect these would all be discontinued and unavailable by now.
 
Could you give an example of a suitable remote? Or would the feature request from Bdorin for adding FLIRC or a blue-tooth device be an option so that a remote control can be used for the Zen series?
 
Could you give an example of a suitable remote? Or would the feature request from Bdorin for adding FLIRC or a blue-tooth device be an option so that a remote control can be used for the Zen series?
I was referring to what @Midway basically outlined here with a Harmony remote:

But yes, the FLIRC request would perhaps make more sense that would address our system that do not have built-in IR sensors, and then allow the use of more universal IR remotes so long as they have the right codes. I would need to discuss the technical feasibility of this, however. I do believe we considered this at one stage and unfortunately had to dismiss it.
 
Could this be incorporated in to the Sense App? The App already allows the user to “switch off” ( I do use this) the unit so an additional option to set an idle time limit before auto-switch off seems like a possibility. In addition What about a configurable “auto-on” option in the software when the Sense App is opened?
 
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@Stephen Healy
@DanCollier
Hi 🙂...

Now I may be misunderstanding this,.as English is not my native language.

BUT,.at least I, am ALWAYS looking for the best possible sound quality.
AND,.you yourself at InnuOs say that the clocks in your products need about 24 hours to warm up,.in order to deliver the highest possible musical sound quality.

I find that my Statement NG even needs a little longer than that,.to "start singing" 100 percent musically optimal after being turned off for a while.
♦️SO,.how does this fit in with turning
off your InnuOs products.
I am ABSOLUTELY NOT looking for,.to save some electricity..!!
I am looking for,.to get the highest possible musical sound quality from my investment in an InnuOs product.
 
@Stephen Healy
@DanCollier
Hi 🙂...

Now I may be misunderstanding this,.as English is not my native language.

BUT,.at least I, am ALWAYS looking for the best possible sound quality.
AND,.you yourself at InnuOs say that the clocks in your products need about 24 hours to warm up,.in order to deliver the highest possible musical sound quality.

I find that my Statement NG even needs a little longer than that,.to "start singing" 100 percent musically optimal after being turned off for a while.
♦️SO,.how does this fit in with turning
off your InnuOs products.
I am ABSOLUTELY NOT looking for,.to save some electricity..!!
I am looking for,.to get the highest possible musical sound quality from my investment in an InnuOs product.
We recommend the switch on the back of the Statement and Statement NG to be kept on all the time with exception if you need to move it or turn it off for a long period. This keeps the capacitors charged as well as both OCXO clocks for USB and Ethernet properly warmed up and stable. The motherboard itself is turned off and is not consuming power this way.
 
We recommend the switch on the back of the Statement and Statement NG to be kept on all the time with exception if you need to move it or turn it off for a long period. This keeps the capacitors charged as well as both OCXO clocks for USB and Ethernet properly warmed up and stable. The motherboard itself is turned off and is not consuming power this way.
Hi Dan...
Yes,.I know that the Statement NG's powersupply also "powers" the clocks, even if the streamer box is turned off.

I think mostly when you have a "one-box solution".
If you turn off a Zen,.Zenith and so on, you also turn off the clock/clocks.

That's when the problem arises that I describe in my previous post above.
It takes a very looong time before the InnuOs device delivers 100 percent musical soundquality again.

SO,.I actually don't understand that this "feature" that the thread is about, is even requested by anyone.
 
The same applies to all systems. Providing the rear power switch is not OFF, then the OCXO clocks on the output module are kept powered for optimal performance.
 
The same applies to all systems. Providing the rear power switch is not OFF, then the OCXO clocks on the output module are kept powered for optimal performance.
There you see Dan,.memory is short 😂.

I have had both Zen and Zenith mk3,.but forgot that they apparently also have a power switch on the front.
 
@DanCollier
But now that we're talking about this.
What is your opinion on...

How long does it take before the streamer box on the Statement NG delivers 100 percent soundquality,.if only it has been turned off, but the big powersupply has been turned on all the time.?
 
@DanCollier
But now that we're talking about this.
What is your opinion on...

How long does it take before the streamer box on the Statement NG delivers 100 percent soundquality,.if only it has been turned off, but the big powersupply has been turned on all the time.?
General rule of thumb for any system that has a output featuring OCXO clocks is to be on for 24 hours or so.
 
General rule of thumb for any system that has a output featuring OCXO clocks is to be on for 24 hours or so.
Hi Dan 🙂...
Yes,.I have also confirmed that through listening tests.
But I think you misunderstand me.

▪️The question was:
My Statement NG powersupply is turned on all the time with the power switch on the back.
It also powers the OCXO clocks,.even if the streamer box is turned off.

How long does it take from turning on the streamer box on the front power switch,.which has been turned off, but the rest as I said above is turned on...
Before the unit delivers at peak performance again.?