STREAM Series Megapost

[Midway]

I can't recall which one, but i did raise the question on another thread if users would indeed be interested in this very feature; an ability in Sense to set the speed of the LAN port. In principle if set to 100mb mode, there would be less intensity on the chip of Ethernet stage so would reduce high frequency noise in turn. You could experiment forcing this on the router side and see if you can observe a difference.

Has it been confirmed there is a noticeable improvement when limiting the LAN connection to 100MB when streaming from a Stream1?

I own an ASUS GT-BE98 Pro wireless router that has 4 ea. 2.5GB LAN ports and 2 ea. 10 GB LAN Ports. (One of the 2.5GB ports OR one of the 10GB ports must be configured as WAN). My router does have QOS if I enable it, which I have not done, but I can't tell if I can set QOS for a specific LAN port. I wouldn't want to limit all the LAN ports. If I can limit QOS to a specific 2.5GB LAN port when streaming and disable when backing up or uploading, I would consider it, if there is an improvement. As far as I know, QOS may only apply to the internet connection and not the LAN ports.

I have an available 2.5 GB LAN port on my router plus an available Netgear 5 port 2.5 GB unmanaged switch. A direct connection to my router would be preferred if I want to limit speed and my ASUS router supports it by LAN port. It will take a 75 foot CAT 6a cable run to go from the ASUS GT-BE98 Pro. I already have a 10 port 1 GB switch in my AV cabinet. My Synology NAS supports 10GB and both my Windows desktop and MacBook Pro support 2.5 GB.

Having control from the Stream1 would be easier and could be my only option.

Thanks.

 

[erho]

anyone heard now a Stream1 with the new PSU?

 

[mooney058]

Have patience.

Any advice on the patience as we approach mid-September?

 

[Esscee]

Better to have a unit that works satisfactorily than one that still has possible bugs in it?
When it comes to supply of components for items these days some folk in some companies are slightly optimistic on likely timing for production deliveries, happens more and more unfortunately.

 

[mooney058]

Better to have a unit that works satisfactorily than one that still has possible bugs in it?
When it comes to supply of components for items these days some folk in some companies are slightly optimistic on likely timing for production deliveries, happens more and more unfortunately.

Thanks. Agree on the above even if my question was mostly ironic

 

[Stephen Healy]

The production team has been working evenings and weekends to meet fulfill back-orders as quickly as possible and we have a large number ready to ship, so it really should be imminent from what I understand.

 

[Tedddy]

Stephen - thanks for sharing the specs/info on the Stream series. I am interested in the Stream1, and waiting for my dealer to receive their demo unit. My question is about storage. I have a growing volume (>5 TB) of hi res files on an external hard drive that I would like to put on an SSD. You recommend the WD Red SN 700 NVMe SSD, however on the WD site they say that the max WD Red capacity is 4 TB. What do you recommend for larger capacity SSDs, and can you confirm once more that the Stream1 SSD capacity is 8 TB? My dealer was not aware of this, and it is a deal breaker for me! Thx.

 

[DanCollier]

Stephen - thanks for sharing the specs/info on the Stream series. I am interested in the Stream1, and waiting for my dealer to receive their demo unit. My question is about storage. I have a growing volume (>5 TB) of hi res files on an external hard drive that I would like to put on an SSD. You recommend the WD Red SN 700 NVMe SSD, however on the WD site they say that the max WD Red capacity is 4 TB. What do you recommend for larger capacity SSDs, and can you confirm once more that the Stream1 SSD capacity is 8 TB? My dealer was not aware of this, and it is a deal breaker for me! Thx.

The maximum factory fit storage we offer on a STREAM 1 is 4TB. This is because the industrial grade Apacer SSD 8TB SSDs we use are very expensive. We do not expect many users to choose this option when the same budget could be put towards moving closer to a STREAM 3 or upgrading the output module. That said there are alternative drives available on the market that you can fit yourself if preferred.

 

[brianmedia]

Just got word that my Stream3 should be shipping to me next week... not holding my breath, but being optimistic it will finally be here after a 4 month wait....

 

[Dadams7378]

anyone heard now a Stream1 with the new PSU?

I’ve had the Stream 1 with the LPSU on home demo for about a week now, comparing against a Hifi Rose RS130. DAC is a Gustard X-30 feeding a Hegel H390 amp with KEF Meta R3s and dual REL subs.

 

[erho]

I’ve had the Stream 1 with the LPSU on home demo for about a week now, comparing against a Hifi Rose RS130. DAC is a Gustard X-30 feeding a Hegel H390 amp with KEF Meta R3s and dual REL subs.

do you use a module or the "normal" USB out? how would you describe the sound against the Hifi Rose?

 

[Dadams7378]

do you use a module or the "normal" USB out? how would you describe the sound against the Hifi Rose?

I’ve been using the DAC out USB port. Chord Shawline USB cable (also on loan). Sound wise, it doesn’t really compete against the Hifi Rose in any area. It’s not a bad sound, but I’d say it’s no better than the internal streamer in the Gustard X-30. The Rose has a wider and slightly deeper soundstage, and is significantly more musical and cohesive to my ears, with better micro dynamics, blacker background and superior detail retrieval. To avoid confirmation bias, I roped in my wife to do a blind test, and she came to very similar conclusions - in fact she was even more on the side of the Rose than I was. In some ways I guess it is ‘unfair’ to be comparing the Innuos entry level model with HiFi Rose’s top of the range, but cost wise they are the closest models. I can get the Rose for £3700, so about £700 more than the Innuos. The Stream 3 might be more comparable I suppose, but it is a lot more money. I should say I did also test the Rose RS250, which is an integrated streamer and DAC at a slightly lower price point (just using the streamer of the RS250 to feed the Gustard). The Innuos is a nicer sounding unit that the RS250, which is quite ‘digiital’ sounding by comparison. The RS130 is in another league to either of them though.

 

[erho]

thank you for sharing your experiences

 

[Dadams7378]

thank you for sharing your experiences

No worries. YMMV of course, but I confess I’m somewhat confused by Innuos’ very punchy pricing strategy. I’d sort of get it more if the build quality was comparable or superior to the Rose, but that isn’t the case either. I’d put build quality on a par with the Gustard, so ‘acceptable’ but nothing to write home about. I have a friend who raves about his Innuos, however that is a Next Gen Statement model that he picked up at a very good price before the more recent price hikes.

 

[erho]

No worries. YMMV of course, but I confess I’m somewhat confused by Innuos’ very punchy pricing strategy. I’d sort of get it more if the build quality was comparable or superior to the Rose, but that isn’t the case either. I’d put build quality on a par with the Gustard, so ‘acceptable’ but nothing to write home about. I have a friend who raves about his Innuos, however that is a Next Gen Statement model that he picked up at a very good price before the more recent price hikes.

yes. I find the prices also hot

 

[Dadams7378]

yes. I find the prices also hot

I’ve no objection to premium pricing per se, but there has to be something you can hang that on, whether it is unique tech, superior build quality or superior sound. Even Innuos when I contacted them said that the Stream 1 with the LPSU power supply would only be on a par with the outgoing Zen MkIII and Pulse models, so I struggle to see how you choose Innuos over the competition at this price point, other than brand loyalty.

 

[erho]

I’ve no objection to premium pricing per se, but there has to be something you can hang that on, whether it is unique tech, superior build quality or superior sound. Even Innuos when I contacted them said that the Stream 1 with the LPSU power supply would only be on a par with the outgoing Zen MkIII and Pulse models, so I struggle to see how you choose Innuos over the competition at this price point, other than brand loyalty.

yes, I also find it not good that they no more offer an entry level device such as the pulse mini

 

[pearson1977]

Or a music server. I've also started looking at other brands when I need to upgrade.

 

[Stephen Healy]

Or a music server. I've also started looking at other brands when I need to upgrade.

The new devices are still music servers - the storage is just optional, as we had huge demand for this.

Do keep in mind the new STREAM series perform way higher than the previous entry-models, and are greatly more versatile too. So with much higher performance, price does need to reflect that.
Certainly there will be lower cost options out there, but we do strive to provide good support with these products that are made in Europe and are sustained by a large software development team, and so on.

 

[pearson1977]

But I'll also pay for a streamer, which I already have on my system.