SenseUPnP: Feedback Thread

[erho]

So what is the second 'Streamer' port for then?!
The Streamer port is there to provide a dedicated low-noise network connection for your external streamer on the assumption that your Innuos is functioning as a music server only. This removes the need to add a network switch which can often introduce a lot of noise if using a basic IT one (although a decently-designed switch for audio would actually bring an improvement as evident by PhoenixNET).

So would you recommend to connect for example a Stream1 direct to the Internet Router and not using a basic IT switch between Router and Stream1?

 

[mountainview]

Hello Stephen, I appreciate you taking the time to explain your approach to tackling this challenging issue. As a Devialet Phantom user, I would be happy to continue participating in the Beta and provide feedback. Currently, UPnP works quite well with Radio Paradise FLAC streaming, but it shows issues with my personal library and Qobuz.

 

[Stephen Healy]

So would you recommend to connect for example a Stream1 direct to the Internet Router and not using a basic IT switch between Router and Stream1?

If that IT switch is not actually needed for any other reason such as connecting more devices, then no I would not recommend it.

 

[erho]

If that IT switch is not actually needed for any other reason such as connecting more devices, then no I would not recommend it.

okay, good to know that. thank you

 

[Lentus Audio]

Hi Stephen, ThanX for this update and your ongoing development/improvement ;-)
I understand and realize that end-user profiles are the most convenient way to get UPnP devices/streamers to work. As you know I also, besides InnuOS, use Lyrion Music Server with the UPnP/DLNA bridge (v3.3.9) by Philippe (https://github.com/philippe44/LMS-uPnP). I use this plugin to connect to Signalyst HQPlayer Embedded servers. HQPe is able to convert PCM to SDM (DSD) with interesting Modulator and Oversampling algorithms.
To get HQPe to work with LMS UPnP/DLNA bridge is not an end-user task and a profile would be great in the Sense GUI ...

I understand that my explanation might be a little bit confused for someone. I like the Sense App which is dedicated to InnuOS products. My music-server is a Pulse Mini connected to my LAN network. The Pulse Mini streams to Signalyst HQPe Server for PCM2SDM (DSD) conversion and I like the SQ ;-)
The HQPe Server is connected via NAA to my Zenith Mk3 and PhoenixUSB and Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC. So the chain is:
WWW Qobuz -> Pulse Mini -> UPnP -> HQPe -> NAA -> Zenith Mk3 -> USB -> PhoenixUSB -> Denafrips Terminator -> XLR -> iCon PRE -> Lentus Audio Purifi 6525SA Class-D mono's -> Lentus Audio NoCAB18 -> my ears ;-)

Perhaps an idea to integrate HQPe (https://signalyst.com/hqplayer-embedded/) in your high-end servers like other brands do see:
‣ Antipodes Oladra/K Series/S Series
‣ SOtM sMS-2000
‣ Small Green Computer sonicTransporter
‣ Pink Faun STREAMER 2.16
‣ iCat servers/players
‣ Aqua LinQ

 

[Stephen Healy]

I understand that my explanation might be a little bit confused for someone. I like the Sense App which is dedicated to InnuOS products. My music-server is a Pulse Mini connected to my LAN network. The Pulse Mini streams to Signalyst HQPe Server for PCM2SDM (DSD) conversion and I like the SQ ;-)
The HQPe Server is connected via NAA to my Zenith Mk3 and PhoenixUSB and Denafrips Terminator R2R DAC. So the chain is:
WWW Qobuz -> Pulse Mini -> UPnP -> HQPe -> NAA -> Zenith Mk3 -> USB -> PhoenixUSB -> Denafrips Terminator -> XLR -> iCon PRE -> Lentus Audio Purifi 6525SA Class-D mono's -> Lentus Audio NoCAB18 -> my ears ;-)

Perhaps an idea to integrate HQPe (https://signalyst.com/hqplayer-embedded/) in your high-end servers like other brands do see:
‣ Antipodes Oladra/K Series/S Series
‣ SOtM sMS-2000
‣ Small Green Computer sonicTransporter
‣ Pink Faun STREAMER 2.16
‣ iCat servers/players
‣ Aqua LinQ

Those goes a bit beyond the scope of SenseUPnP, perhaps. This steps more into further software integrations and elements of DSP. A common theme of those products you mention is that they offer themselves up to as many ecosystems as possible. We need to consider other integrations carefully, and our primary focus will always be that our native built-in app is a very compelling offering.

 

[Esscee]

Wise words there from @Stephen Healy, concentrating on making Sense App best possible for Innuos units has to be the priority whilst considering possible integration with other apps.
Otherwise it could raise the possibility of "Jack of all trades but Master of none", which might not be the best route to go down.