Migrating from a Roon account to Innuos

[grantgg]

I have a Innuos Zen Mk.3 and Zen Mini, and have been using two roon accounts, one is a lifetime account and the other is a yearly renewal (same account name). I think I'm ready to drop the renewable roon account on the Zen Mini and switch back to innuos and Sense. Actually looking forward to seeing what Sense has to offer now. I've done a Innuos backup.

Questions; Is there anything to lookout for before I make this switch? Is there a guide to follow?
Thank you.

 

[Stephen Healy]

I have a Innuos Zen Mk.3 and Zen Mini, and have been using two roon accounts, one is a lifetime account and the other is a yearly renewal (same account name). I think I'm ready to drop the renewable roon account on the Zen Mini and switch back to innuos and Sense. Actually looking forward to seeing what Sense has to offer now. I've done a Innuos backup.

Questions; Is there anything to lookout for before I make this switch? Is there a guide to follow?
Thank you.

It's intended to be fairly plug and play, but generally speaking head to SYSTEM -> SETTINGS and just set up any streaming sources you may have, and make some adjustment to the Audio settings depending on the DAC you have connected. The main task i think will be to make sure your library is fully accounted for, not sure if you had music files split between the ZEN and the ZENmini?

 

[grantgg]

Thanks for your reply. Sounds pretty straightforward. I don't have any extra streaming sources and upload various downloads I've done to each Zen. I currently have about 1,200 albums which are pretty much synced between the two. The only thing I am uncertain of is being able to use a Zen backup to other Zen for a system restore if necessary. That's what I did initially when adding Zen Mini, But I will buy another disk for backup to be safe.

 

[grantgg]

Switching to Innous went fine. One thing that I noticed which could be a deal-breaker, is the lack of zones. In roon I can have the Zen output either to my DAC or my phone or laptop or some other device, or both. Does that feature not exist in innous Sense?

 

[DanCollier]

Hey, heres an article I made regarding migrating from one innuos system to the other. https://innuos.com/kb/system-migration-transferring-innuos-systems/

You can play to other compatible UPnP ready devices via SenseUPnP, but theres no option to play directly to your phone no. In fact, we discussed work arounds to this just recently https://community.innuos.com/thread...h-phones-tablets-and-computers.517/#post-3727

Heres a link to an article regarding SenseUPnP also - https://innuos.com/kb/innuos-upnp-streamers/

 

[guardajoias]

Switching to Innous went fine. One thing that I noticed which could be a deal-breaker, is the lack of zones. In roon I can have the Zen output either to my DAC or my phone or laptop or some other device, or both. Does that feature not exist in innous Sense?

The equivalent of zones in Innuos Sense is the ability to play separately or in groups ("multiroom") to multiple players/endpoints from the Innuos library. Innuos can play to LMS devices and UPnP devices (but groups can only contain LMS endpoints). LMS is flexible however thanks to plugins. In addition to using LMS apps on phones and computers, you can use the LMS Airplay bridge to add Airplay devices as LMS endpoints, so that works with any Airplay capable endpoint. It does take some tweaking of the plugin. Future updates of Sense may make all this simpler to use, but generally, it works.

 

[grantgg]

Dan, and guardajoias,
Thank you for the information and links. It may be that Squeeze player or BubbleUPnP (free) may work in my situation. With my Mini I basically want to have the output directed to my phone where I can listen to headphones when needed. Currently I'm away from my Zen Mini but will try in near future. With my Zen Mk3. I use a roon account, fortunately, purchased a lifetime license a few years ago. The cost of which has gone up quite a bit since then.

 

[DanCollier]

The WiiM streamers work as good cost effective Squeezelite compatible endpoints, I know of a few users running these in seperate headphones systems etc elsewhere from their main system with their Innuos servers.
Squeezeplayer will work best compared to BubbleUPnP, UPnP is not the most reliable use case due to the various implementations of it and lack of any official standard.